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    Definitive Guide to Feeds and Speeds for Wood

    05/ 12/ 2020

    General speeds feeds feeds and speeds

    Here’s your comprehensive guide to Feeds and Speeds for Wood, together with Tips and Techniques that are specific to cutting wood on a CNC Machine.

    Wood Types

    When calculating feeds and speeds for wood, we generally look at 4 different famillies. You can see them in our G-Wizard Feed and Speed Calculator’s Material menu:

    Just 4 wood types? Why not more?

    To access the full variety of woods under each family, use the “More…” button on G-Wizard.

    People wonder why we don’t have a lot more categories.

    The short answer answer is that there are hundreds of sub-categories corresponding to individual wood species accessible via the “More” button. Use them if you need to fine tune for maximum performance.

    But, for basic roughing work, also be aware that you can do a lot with just the main sub-categories. This is due to the size of the “sweet spot” that relates feeds and speeds to good results in a material, together with the relative hardness of the woods (or other materials) versus the cutters (HSS or Carbide).

    The Sweet Spot determines how the relationship between speed (spindle rpm) and feedrate need to come together for good cutting results. A typical Sweet Spot looks like this schematically:

    The green areas reflect ideal Sweet Spot matches for a material and cutting conditions. You can optimize MRR (Material Removal Rate), Surface Finish, and to an extent a blend of all three. Red reflects danger zones.

    It’s important to note you can get into just as much trouble running too slowly (due to rubbing) as running too quickly.

    Tools usually fail for a couple of main reasons:

    – They get too hot, which softens the tool and results in a dull edge. Tools have a certain maximum speed, called the “Surface Speed” that governs how fast they can run against a given material. Running too slowly relative to feeds also generates a lot of heat due to Rubbing. This destroys a tool gradually, though gradual can mean a matter of minutes if the tool is hot enough.

    – Tools can break because the flutes get too full, the chips have no place to go, and the tool jams and snaps off. This destroys a tool suddenly and is more commonly what beginners see.

    A lot else can shorten a tools life–chipped edges in some materials, materials like stainless steel can “work harden” and suddenly become much harder during the cutting process, and some materials like aluminum try to weld themselves to the cutting edge if lubricant or appropriate tool coatings are not used. But, over heating and chip loading are the two main tool life enemies that are directly feeds and speeds related.

    You can learn all this and much more from our free Feeds and Speeds Tutorial, but for now, let’s stay with this idea of a Sweet Spot. In general, the sweet spots for woods are much larger than for metals. For harder steels and difficult materials like Titanium, the sweet spot gets very small indeed. Imagine there are actual numbers on our Sweet Spot diagram. “Size” of Sweet Spot refers to how wide a range of numbers are safe.

    What determines the “Size” of a Sweet Spot?

    A lot of this is all up to that relative difference in hardness between material and cutter. Even Carbide is not all that much harder than hardened steel whereas it is phenomenally harder than even the hardest woods. Red Oak, for example, has a Brinell Hardness of about 3.7. Mild steel is 120, hardened steel is 900, and tungsten carbide is 4000!

    It turns out that the characteristics that affect the feeds and speeds for wood are different than hardness. They have to do for example with the behavior of the sap relative to the sawdust and how the chips are made.

    Plastics, similarly, can behave differently–hard plastics as a name is a bit of a misnomer (though it is the industry standard in tooling catalogs). It refers to the chipping characteristics of the plastic. Hard Plastic turns to dust–it shatters. Soft Plastics allow a nice clean chip to be sliced off, almost like you slice cheese with a knife.

    Of course, the same is true for woods. “Hard” Wood versus “Soft” Wood has more to do with the seeds of the Wood than the actual hardness. Balsa seems soft but is technically a Hardwood. Hardwood seeds have a covering–shell or fruit, while Softwood does not.

    Another factor influencing all this has to do with manufacturing process for the material. In the case of materials like MDF and Plywood, their manufacture can result in abrasive grit being embedded in the layers and that grit matters more than the wood in feeds and speeds.

    This is why so much router work prefers Carbide tooling even though wood is relatively soft. HSS just doesn’t stand up to that kind of grit very well.

    With all that said, there are still differencs in hardness for various woods, and there is a standard scale, called the “Janka” scale that is used to rate the relative hardness of various woods.

    Improve My Feeds and Speeds for Softwoods

    Here are the various softwoods, sorted by Janka hardness, that one might attempt to CNC:

    Common Name Scientific Name

    Janka Metric Hardness

    K-N

    Janka Imperial Hardness

    lb-feet

    balsa Ochroma pyramidale 0.4 90
    ceiba Ceiba pentandra 1.1 240
    cottonwood – balsam poplar Populus balsamifera 1.3 300
    white-cedar, northern Thuja occidentalis 1.4 320
    aspen, quaking Populus tremuloides 1.6 350
    buckeye, yellow Aesculus octandra 1.6 350
    cedar, atlantic white Chamaecyparis thyoides 1.6 350
    cottonwood, black Populus trichocarpa 1.6 350
    fir, subalpine Abies lasiocarpa 1.6 350
    red cedar, western Thuja plicata 1.6 350
    willow, black Salix nigra 1.6 360
    cuangare Dialyanthera spp. 1.7 380
    okoume Aucoumea klaineana 1.7 380
    pine, eastern white Pinus strobus 1.7 380
    pine, sugar Pinus lambertiana 1.7 380
    jelutong Dyera costulata 1.7 390
    spruce, Engelmann Picea engelmanni 1.7 390
    fir, balsam Abies balsamea 1.8 400
    basswood, American Tilia americana 1.8 410
    basswood, Carolina Tilia caroliniana 1.8 410
    fir, noble Abies procera 1.8 410
    aspen, bigtooth Populus grandidentata 1.9 420
    pine, western white Pinus monticola 1.9 420
    redwood, second growth Sequoia sempervirens 1.9 420
    sajo Campnosperma panamensis 1.9 425
    cottonwood, eastern Populus deltoides 1.9 430
    fir, pacific silver Abies amabilis 1.9 430
    obeche Triplochiton scleroxylon 1.9 430
    pine, limber Pinus flexilis 1.9 430
    cypress, Mexican Cupressus lustianica 2 460
    pine, ponderosa Pinus ponderosa 2 460
    shorea, light red meranti Shorea spp., lauan-meranti group 2 460
    incense-cedar Libocedrus decurrens 2.1 470
    fir, white Abies concolor 2.1 480
    pine, lodgepole Pinus contorta 2.1 480
    redwood, old growth Sequoia sempervirens 2.1 480
    spruce, white Picea glauca 2.1 480
    chalviande Virola spp. 2.1 481
    butternut Juglans cinerea 2.2 490
    fir, grand Abies grandis 2.2 490
    limba Terminalia superba 2.2 490
    spruce, red Picea rubra 2.2 490
    fir, California red Abies magnifica 2.2 500
    hemlock, eastern Tsuga canadensis 2.2 500
    pine, Jeffrey Pinus jeffreyi 2.2 500
    banak Virola spp. 2.3 510
    Douglas-fir, interior south Pseudotsuga menziesii 2.3 510
    spruce, Sitka Picea sitchensis 2.3 510
    tulapueta Osteophloeum platyspermum 2.3 512
    spruce, black Picea mariana 2.3 520
    chestnut, American Castenea dentata 2.4 540
    hemlock, western Tsuga heterophylla 2.4 540
    poplar Liriodendron tulipifera 2.4 540
    yellow poplar Liriodendron tulipifera 2.4 540
    catalpa, northern Catalpa speciosa 2.4 550
    catalpa, southern Catalpa bignonioides 2.4 550
    hura Hura crepitans 2.4 550
    pine. red Pinus resinosa 2.5 560
    baldcypress Taxcodium distichum 2.3 570
    pine, jack Pinus banksiana 2.5 570
    cedar, Alaska Chamaecyparis nootkatensis 2.6 580
    cedar, yellow Cupressus nootkatensis 2.6 580
    alder, red Alnus rubra 2.6 590
    silverbell, Carolina Halesia carolina 2.6 590
    tamarack Larix laricina 2.6 590
    Douglas-fir, interior north Pseudotsuga menziesii 2.7 600
    Spanish-cedar Cedrela spp. 2.7 600
    ilomba Pycnanthus angolensis Exell 2.7 610
    red cedar, southern Juniperus silicicola 2.7 610
    pine, pitch Pinus rigida 2.8 620
    cativo Prioria copaifera 2.8 630
    sassafras Sassafras albidum 2.8 630
    alder, European Alnus glutinosa 2.9 650
    determa Ocotea rubra 2.9 660
    Douglas-fir, interior west Pseudotsuga menziesii 2.9 660
    pine, spruce Pinus glabra 2.9 660
    pine, Table Mountain Pinus pungens 2.9 660
    primavera Tabebula donnell-smithii 2.9 660
    pulgande Dacryodes spp. 3 666
    hemlock, mountain Tsuga mertensiana 3 680
    sumac, staghorn Rhus typhina 3 680
    pine, loblolly Pinus taeda 3.1 690
    pine, shortleaf Pinus echinata 3.1 690
    magnolia, cucumber tree Magnolia acuminata 3.1 700
    maple, silver Acer saccharimum 3.1 700
    Douglas-fir, coast Pseudotsuga menziesii 3.2 710
    boxelder Acer negundo 3.2 720
    cedar, Port Orford Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 3.2 720
    chinkapin, giant Castanopsis chrysophylla 3.2 730
    pine, sand Pinus clausa 3.3 730
    pine, pond Pinus serotina 3.3 740
    pine, virginia Pinus virginiana 3.3 740
    birch, gray Betula populifolia 3.4 760
    pine, slash Pinus elliotti 3.4 760
    shorea, yellow meranti Shorea spp., lauan-meranti group 3.4 770
    sycamore, american Platanus occidentalis 3.4 770
    parana-pine Araucaria augustifolia 3.5 780
    shorea, dark red meranti Shorea spp., lauan-meranti group 3.5 780
    mahogany, true Swietenia macrophylla 3.6 800
    magnolia, sweetbay Magnolia virginiana 3.6 810
    tupelo, black Nyssa sylvatica 3.6 810
    elm, american Ulmus americana 3.7 830
    larch, western Larix occidentalis 3.7 830
    mahogany, African Khaya spp. 3.7 830
    elder, blue Sambucus cerulea 3.7 840
    ash, black Fraxinus nigra 3.8 850
    maple, bigleaf Acer macrophyllum 3.8 850
    sweetgum Liquidambar styraciflua 3.8 850
    elm, slippery Ulmus rubra 3.8 860
    pine, pinyon Pinus edulis 3.8 860
    pine, longleaf Pinus palustris 3.9 870
    hackberry Celtis occidentalis 3.9 880
    tupelo. water Nyssa aquatica 3.9 880
    red cedar, eastern Juniperus virginiana 4 900
    sande Brosimum spp., utile group 4 900
    birch, paper Betula papyrifera 4 910
    ekop Tetraberlinia tubmaniana 4.1 910
    pine, ocote Pinus oocarpa 4 910
    anime Protium spp. 4.1 920
    sourwood Oxydendrum arboreum 4.2 940
    cherry, black, American Prunus serotina 4.2 950
    maple, red Acer rubrum 4.2 950
    robe Tabebul spp., roble group 4.3 960
    ash, pumpkin Fraxinus profunda 4.4 990

     

     

    Improve My Feeds and Speeds for Hardwoods

    Here are the various hardwoods, sorted by Janka hardness, that one might attempt to CNC:

    Common Name Scientific Name

    Janka Metric Hardness

    K-N

    Janka Imperial Hardness

    lb-feet

    teak Tectona grandis 4.4 1000
    walnut, black Juglans nigra 4.5 1010
    albarco Cariniana spp. 4.5 1020
    holly, American Ilex opaca 4.5 1020
    magnolia, southern Magnolia grandiflora 4.5 1020
    buckthorn, cascara Rhamnus purshiana 4.6 1040
    oak, southern red Quercus falcata 4.7 1060
    avodire Turraeanthus africanus 4.8 1080
    manni Symphonia globulifera 5 1120
    andiroba Carapa guianensis 5 1130
    oak, chestnut Quercus prinus 5 1130
    shorea, white meranti Shorea javanica, lauan-meranti group 5.7 1140
    cherry, wild, European Prunus avium 5.1 1150
    santa maria Calophyllum brasiliense 5.1 1150
    ash, oregon Fraxinus latifolia 5.2 1160
    juniper, alligator Juniperus deppeana 5.2 1160
    maple, black Acer nigrum 5.2 1180
    oak, overcup Quercus lyrata 5.3 1190
    oak, water Quercus nigra 5.3 1190
    ash, green Fraxinus pennsylvanica 5.3 1200
    oak, black Quercus velutina 5.4 1210
    oak, laurel Quercus laurifolia 5.4 1210
    pine, heart Pinus resinosa 5.5 1225
    kapur Dryobalanops spp. 5.5 1230
    oak, swamp chestnut Quercus michauxii 5.5 1240
    pine, Caribbean Pinus caribaea 5.5 1240
    birch, river Betula nigra 5.6 1260
    birch, yellow Betula alleghaniensis 5.6 1260
    iroko Chlorophora spp. 5.6 1260
    keruing Dipterocarpus spp. 5.6 1270
    laurel, California Umbellularia californica 5.6 1270
    myrtlewood Umbellularia californica 5.65 1270
    angelique Dicorynia guianensis 5.7 1290
    mersawa Anisoptera spp. 5.7 1290
    oak, northern red Quercus rubra 5.7 1290
    oak, shumard Quercus shumardii 5.8 1290
    beech, American Fagus grandifolia 5.8 1300
    ramin Gonystylus bancanus 5.8 1300
    alder, white Alnus rhombifolia 5.9 1320
    ash, white Fraxinus americana 5.9 1320
    elm, cedar Ulmus crassifolia 5.9 1320
    elm, rock Ulmus thomasii 5.9 1320
    ovangkol Guibourtia ehie 5.9 1330
    oak, post Quercus stellata 6 1360
    oak, white Quercus alba 6 1360
    oak, bur Quercus macrocarpa 6.1 1370
    cypress, Australian Callitris glaucophylla 6 1375
    coffeetree, Kentucky Gymnocladus dioicus 6,2 1390
    oak, scarlet Quercus coccinea 6.2 1400
    sepetir Pseudosindora palustris 6.3 1410
    tanoak Lithocarpus densiflorus 6.3 1420
    maple, sugar (hard) Acer saccharum 6.4 1450
    madrone, Pacific Arbutus menziesii 6.5 1460
    oak, willow Quercus phellos 6.5 1460
    birch, sweet Betula lenta 6.5 1470
    oak, cherrybark Quercus falcata varpagodifolia 6.6 1480
    hickory, bitternut Carya cordiformis 6.7 1500
    merbau Intsia spp. 6.7 1500
    pau marfim, Patagonian maple Balfourodendron riedelianum 6.7 1500
    oak, pin Quercus palustris 6.7 1510
    sapele Entandrophragma cylindricum 6.7 1510
    witch hazel Hamamelis virginica 6.8 1530
    elm, winged Ulmus alata 6.8 1540
    hickory, water Carya aquatica 6.9 1550
    afrormosia Pericopsis elata 6.9 1560
    honeylocust Gleditsia triacanthos 7 1580
    peroba de campos Paratecoma peroba 7.1 1600
    yew, Pacific Taxus brevifolia 7.1 1600
    oak, swamp white Quercus bicolor 7.2 1620
    opepe Nauclea diderrichii 7.3 1630
    alder, Nepalese Alnus nepalensis 7.4 1690
    locust, black Robinia pseudoacacia 7.6 1700
    pilon Hyeronima spp. 7.6 1700
    kempas Koompassia malaccensis 7.6 1710
    para-angelim Hymenolobium excelsum 7.7 1720
    piquia Caryocar spp. 7.7 1720
    apple Malus sylvestris 7.7 1730
    peroba rosa Aspidosperma spp., peroba group 7.7 1730
    tree-of-heaven Ailanthus altissima 7.7 1731
    angelin Andira inermis 7.8 1750
    benge Guibourtia arnoldiana 7.8 1750
    hornbeam, American Carpinus caroliniana 7.9 1780
    shorea Shorea spp., baulau group 7.9 1780
    ebony, black and white, pale moon Diospyros malabarica 7.9 1790
    laurel, mountain Kalmia latifolia 8 1790
    serviceberry Amelanchier spp. 8 1800
    hickory, shellbark Carya lacinosa 8.1 1810
    hickory, pecan Carya illinoensis 8.1 1820
    hophornbeam, eastern Ostrya virginiana 8.3 1860
    purpleheart Peltogyne spp. 8.3 1860
    hickory, shagbark Carya ovata 8.4 1880
    jarrah Eucalyptus marginata 8.5 1910
    wenge Millettia laurentii 8.4 1930
    degame Calycophyllum candidissimum 8.6 1940
    hickory. mockernut Carya tomentosa 8.8 1970
    pedauk – African Pterocarpus soyauxii 8.6 1970
    ash, blue Fraxinus quadrangulata 9 2030
    karri Eucalyptus diversicolor 9.1 2040
    wallaba Eperua spp. 9.1 2040
    hickory, pignut Carya glabra 9.5 2140
    sucupira Diplotropis purpurea 9.5 2140
    dogwood, flowering Cornus florida 9.6 2150
    goncalo alves Astronium graveolens 9.6 2160
    mahogany, Santos, Cabreuva Myroxylon balsamum 9.8 2200
    tornillo Cedrelinga cateniformis 10.2 2299
    ebony, persimmon, white Diospyros virginiana 10.2 2300
    mora Mora spp. 10.2 2300
    persimmon, common Diospyros virginiana 10.2 2300
    mesquite Prosopis spp. 10.4 2345
    cherry, Brazilian Castenea dentata 10.4 2350
    courbaril Hymenaea courbaril 10.5 2350
    greenheart Chlorocardium rodiei 10.5 2350
    ebony, Ceylon, East Indian Diospyros cebenum 10.8 2430
    granadillo Platymiscium yucatanum 10.9 2450
    oak, live Quercus virginiana 12.9 2680
    bubinga Guibourtia spp. 12 2690
    olive Olea europaea, O. capensis   2700
    rosewood, Brazilian Dalbergia nigra 12.1 2720
    sucupira Bowdichia brasiliensis 12.2 2750
    osage orange, horse apple Maclura pomifera 12.3 2760
    bloodwood, conduru, cardinal wood Brosimum rubescens 14 2900
    kaneelhart Licaria spp. 12.9 2900
    ebony, mun Diospyros mun 13.4 3000
    macawood Platymiscium spp. 14 3150
    rosewood, Indian Dalbergia latifolia 14.1 3170
    bulletwood Manilkara bidentata 14.2 3190
    ebony, African, Gaboon, Nigerian Diospyros crassiflora 14.1 3220
    ebony, Macassar, striped Diospyros celebica 14.1 3220
    azobe Lophira alata 14.9 3350
    manbarklak Eschweilera spp. 15.5 3480
    ipe Handroanthus spp. (lapacho group), Brazilian walnut 15.6 3510
    marishballi Lincania spp. 15.9 3570
    lignumvitae Guaiacum spp. 20 4500

     

    Tips and Techniques for Cutting Wood on a CNC Machine

    Carbide or HSS Cutters?

    In most cases, you’ll want to purchase carbide cutters. First, a lot of wood products such as plywood and MDF can contain considerable amounts of highly abrasive grit due to the way they are manufactured. That grit radically shortens the life of HSS tools and you’ll need carbide to stand up to it. Second, the spindle speeds used in most CNC woodwork are very fast, and this is also advantageous for Carbide because it tolerates the higher temperatures associated with the fast speeds better. Lastly, carbide is much stiffer than HSS, and so tool deflection is less likely to be a problem. Here is a great article: What Every CNCer Ought to Know About Tool Deflection.

    Avoid Splintering the Surface with Special Router Bits

    Specialize bits are available to help reduce the likelihood of splintering the surface of your wood (or laminated materials too):

    – Upcut: This is the normal end mill style. The spiral flute carries chips up and out of the hole as it cuts. These are probably the worst about splintering, though with serious fine tuning and slower feeds and speeds you may be able to tame it a bit.

    – Downcut: With downcut geometry, the spiral is reversed so it pushes down instead of pulling up. This is great for reducing splintering of the top surface, but you do want to be careful the chips can go somewhere. Cutting deep tight slots can be problematic for this type of cutter sometimes.

    – Compression: A compression cut is a combination of upcut and downcut. It has the spiral set to pull up at the bottom of the material, then it reverses direction at the top. It’s name comes because it is pushing the chips to the center of the cutter, or “comrpessing” them, in other words. Compression cutters can avoid splintering both top and bottom, so are ideal for many applications where you’re making one pass to cut all the way through the material.

    – Straight Flute: Straight flutes have no twist. This reduces their likelihood of splintering, and it also makes the cutters cheaper. However, their performance is not so hot in terms of ultimate feeds and speeds.

    For much more on Cutters for CNC Routers, see our specific article.

    More Splintering and Tear-Out Tips

    • The more porous the wood, the more likely it is to splinter.
    • Slower, shallower cuts will reduce the splintering.
    • Climb Cutting can make tear-out less like than Conventional Milling.
    • Spray a sealer like lacquer on the wood to give it a little more support.

    Tips to Reduce Overheating

    Tired of those annoying burn marks on your edges? Here are some tips to help:

    • Make sure you’re running proper feeds and speeds so that your cutters won’t rub. Rubbing generates a lot of heat. You need a Feeds and Speeds Calculator to do the job right. Preferably one like our G-Wizard that has a Rubbing Warning.
    • Keep cutters clean. Any dust or resin buildup adds friction which can lead to overheating the material.
    • Use sharp cutters. If you can run your fingernail over the edge without shaving off a bit of fingernail, your cutter is probably dull.
    • Take shallower passes. Hogging with deep passes removes material fast, but it can also cause tear-out and overheating that leads to burning.

    CNC Router or Mill?

    Would you believe that for many CNC woodworking applications, a VMC (Vertical Machining Center) or mill can make more sense than a CNC Router? All sorts of companies like Taylor Guitars and Fender are using VMC’s on a daily basis for woodwork. Here are some of the reasons why:

    – Cost: When high levels of precision are needed (guitar making is very precise), the mill can achieve precision at a lower price point.

    – Floor Space: Most of the gantries are set up to take 4×8 sheets. These custom shops are doing smaller runs and they’re not machining plywood sheets. The desire to include climate control to keep the wood stable also means shop floor square footage is at a premium. Smaller machine footprints help keep this cost under control.

    – Dust Control: The full enclosure of a mill really helps keep the dust down in the shop.

    – Tool Changer: While they’re certainly available for CNC Routers, they’re common on mills. 

    Vacuum Table Tips

    Vacuum tables are often the preferred method of workholding for wood, and we have a huge page chock full of great information on how to use Vacuum Tables.

    Check out our Total Guide to Vacuum Tables…

    Calculating Feeds and Speeds for Wood

    Feeds and Speeds Calculator for Wood and CNC Routers

    For CNC Woodworking applications, a good Feeds and Speeds Calculator needs the following features:

    – A detailed wood database to fine tune Feeds and Speeds by wood species.

    – Support for the special cutters used by CNC Routers such as downcut, compression, and straight flute.

    – If you have a hobby-class machine, it isn’t as sturdy or rigid as a commercial machine. Feeds and Speeds will need to be adjusted.

    – Support to help you limit feeds and speeds to levels that won’t pop the parts of your vacuum table.

    Our G-Wizard Calculator is the world’s first feeds and speeds calculator specifically designed for CNC Router use, and it does all that and more.

     

    G-Wizard’s Material Database has hundreds of wood species built-in…

    My Cutter Gets Really Hot or the Wood is Being Burnt

    If the cutter is getting hot to the touch (careful!), and especially if there is any discoloration or the wood is being burnt, your feedrate relative to the proper feedrate is too slow, and the cutter is rubbing. For a full explanation of rubbing, see this article from our Feeds and Speeds Tutorials.

    Geometry causes rubbing when we feed cutters too slowly. It heats everything up and will burn wood…

    This post originally appeared on the CNC Cookbook blog. Tormach's 24R CNC Router uses the advanced PathPilot® CNC control which uses standard machine code (G & M), integrates with most industry-standard CAD/CAM programming software packages, and includes built-in diagnostics, tool path graphics. That means that you can start making (wood) chips fast and create the parts you want. For more info on the 24R CNC Router check out the technical specs or watch this video.

     

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